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WP:URFA/2020[edit]

This article does not currently meet the current featured article criteria. There is an outstanding maintenance tag, bits of uncited text, and heavy use of advocacy sources instead of scholarly sources. I have concerns about the sheer amount of sourcing here to advocacy groups, political action groups, and sources that clearly take sides on this debate, such as "Fair Tax: The Truth: Answering the Critics" and sources with titles like " "The U.S. Corporate Income Tax System: Once a World Leader, Now A Millstone Around the Neck of American Business". I have serious concerns about the quality of this article. Hog Farm _Talk 19:53, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Past tense[edit]

We should really figure out how to swap much of this article to past tense. The idea of "flat taxes" hasn't gone away, but I think the political landscape has changed a lot and this particular movement for them is over. Boortz retired years ago and Cain is dead, and they were some of the main proponents.Brianyoumans (talk) 15:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it does continue to get introduced as a bill into each Congress, but the number of co-sponsors keeps going down. It's hard to say whether this is actually sort of a zombie bill that keeps getting proposed just to keep a few faithful happy or whether there is still actual efforts going on to pass it.Brianyoumans (talk) 16:50, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Understanding the types of taxation in order to understand what is being said in the article[edit]

Tax types based one what is taxed or when the tax is assessed: income tax (on income), consumption tax (on expenditures) or use tax (taxed when the item in a transaction is used).

There is personal taxation as opposed to corporate (or other entity) taxation.

There are direct (the entity affected by the taxes pays them) and indirect (not direct) taxes.

Direct taxes are also defined as those that are paid by the same entity that is impacted by the taxes.

Indirect taxes are also defined as those paid by an entity other than the one impacted by the taxes.

There are transactional (involving more than one party other than the tax tax collecting entity) and non-transactional (not transactional) taxes.

Taxes are can be regressive or fixed (the amount paid is fixed so all entities pay the same amount of tax), proportional (the proportion of the total amount taxed that is collected is fixed), progressive (the proportion of the total tax collected varies directly with the amount being taxed), and degressive (the proportion of the total tax collected varies inversely with the amount being taxed).

I would like to either use this knowledge to rewrite some of the portions of the fair tax entry, likely changing occurrences of "tax" to "income" tax, as that is what I believe is actually being discussed. Alternatively, I would like to put this information somewhere--perhaps in the entry for tax--and reference it from the fair tax entry.

Does anyone have any comments before I do one or the other? Todd Bezenek (talk) 03:59, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]