Talk:Local government areas of New South Wales

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Lord Howe Island[edit]

My understanding was that Lord Howe Island was also a local government authority (governed by an Island Board) which receives grants and funding from the State Government in the same way as any other Council in New South Wales. Surely this should be included in the list. Skinsmoke 00:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Howe Island is a weird case. It is one of the two unincorporated areas of NSW (the other one being the Unincorporated Far West). The fact that there is a council doesn't make it a LGA. There are also two councils in the Unincorporated Far West, one each for the towns of Silverton and Tibooburra. Those are also not LGA's, but so-to-say local councils on the sub-LGA level. Nevertheless, a complete list covering the entire state of NSW should not only include its LGAs but also its two unincorporated areas.--Ratzer (talk) 19:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shires and towns with the same name[edit]

I have created an additional page for Berrigan Shire and taken the information and info box that was in the Berrigan town page. Two points:

  • In this instance Berrigan town is only one of four major localities in the Berrigan Shire and therefore including Shire-wide infomation on that page is potentially misleading (note: I had to revert an edit that substituted the town population for the shire population in the shire info box).
  • Is there a policy or standard that covers separate pages for towns and shires of the same name (or cities (municipal) and cities (urban areas); i.e. Melbourne & City of Melbourne)?

Mattinbgn 06:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved Berrigan Shire to Berrigan Shire Council, anticipating that Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian places will agree that these articles be named after their official names (in NSW on the basis of names recognised by the New South Wales Department of Local Government)--Grahamec 08:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC) I have now updated the list at Local Government Areas of New South Wales to show the correct names.--Grahamec 01:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

County councils and other formal joint LGA bodies[edit]

The article makes no reference to other bodies covered by the NSW Local Government Act such as County Councils and Water authorities such as Rous Water. I would like to add something but material is thin on the ground. Any assistance would be appreciated. Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 07:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cumberland and Northumberland (Sydney and Newcastle) had county councils from 1945 and 1948 until 1963. [1] There are other "county" councils listed at [2], its strange because they are for regions not actual counties, except for Rous. They have some of the other county councils listed at State Records NSW if you search the Agency Title field for "county council" (without the quotes) --Astrokey44 09:01, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dumb list of LGAs by starting letter[edit]

To group the list of LGAs by starting letter does not provide any additional information. Much more useful would be a grouping by LGA region. This would be true information that I cannot conclude from the name of an LGA.--Ratzer (talk) 19:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

fixed--Ratzer (talk) 20:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

voluntary and involuntary[edit]

I know it's been there for over ten years, but the text of the lead section is grating. The recent edit that made two paragraphs helped by actually providing a definition in the first paragraph, but the second one is still poor reading. The text of the second paragraph is currently

Administered by the Government of New South Wales and subject to periodic restructuring involving voluntary and involuntary amalgamation of areas, local government areas are considered a city when an area that has received city status by proclamation of the Governor. Some areas retain designations they held under prior legislation, even though these titles no longer indicate a legal status. These include municipalities, that are predominantly inner-city suburban areas and smaller rural towns; and shires, that are predominantly rural or outer suburban areas. Many councils now choose not to use any area title, and simply refer to themselves as councils, e.g. Palerang Council, Burwood Council. The smallest local government area by area in the state is the Municipality of Hunter's Hill.

I would like to propose that it be changed to something like

Local government areas are administered by the Government of New South Wales. A local government area is considered a city when it has received city status by proclamation of the Governor. The current legislation does not define municipalities or shires, however some local government areas have retained these terms in their names where they were proclaimed under earlier legislation. In these cases, "municipalities" are predominantly inner-city suburban areas and smaller rural towns; while "shires" are predominantly rural or outer suburban areas.

If required, the restructuring information could be included further down in the Reviews or Former LGA sections. I open this proposal for comment before just doing it, as I don't know what sensitivities are involved. --Scott Davis Talk 14:20, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2016 Census update of population tables[edit]

Hi there. I've commenced an update of the tables that include 2016 census date at at User:Rangasyd/sandbox/Local government in New South Wales/2006 census update. Please feel free to offer help, should you be so inclined. Cheers. Rangasyd (talk) 09:04, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work, might I make a suggestion on the format? It seems to be rather cluttered as is, and some columns are really not needed. I would say it would be a nicer list if the miles column is removed (if you really want sq mi you can use the convert function), and rank should be removed. You can always sort, so no need for an extra column. As for date established, would you consider just having the original date? It might be too much info to have multiple dates on some and not others. Maybe something like this:

Name Region Type Date established Population (2016) Population (2011) Change Land area (km²) Population density
Bayside Council Sydney Municipality 13 January 1871 156,058 152,814 +2.1% 50 3,121.2/km2

What do you think? I can help with others regions if you want. I have programs that produce this kind of list instantly. Mattximus (talk) 23:33, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of Council Seat[edit]

Some of the tables have a "Council Seat" column but there is no explanation of that term.

I suspect that it might be the location where council meetings are usually held or where the main office is.

Peter Jones 124.171.135.82 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:34, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistencies and error.[edit]

The opening sentence is "This is a list of local government areas (LGAs) in New South Wales, sorted by region" but (a) "region" is not defined; (b) the list is currently sorted by a column labelled "Local Government Area", and (c) the list can be sorted by several other columns.

Peter Jones 124.171.135.82 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:46, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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