Talk:Graves' disease

Inclusion of the "In literature" section

Diseases in art and popular culture are mentioned in other Wikipedia articles such as Kuru (disease) and even dedicated ones such as Huntington's disease in popular culture and Tuberculosis in human culture. It seems to me that mentioning its occurence in Italo Svevo's "Zeno's Conscience", a significant novel in Italian literature, fulfils the notability requirement. Besides, it makes the article more comprehensive, just like the "Notable cases" section, which is not of strict biomedical relevance either. Maybe it could be rephrased to something like "Grave's disease is mentioned in the novel..." or maybe the topic should be renamed to something less specific, such as "In literature and popular culture". Vmarquioni (talk) 17:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

This page Zeno's Conscience does not even mention the disease. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:08, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

The page already mentioned it, although only briefly (as expected for a page about the book itself). I have included a link to Grave's disease but preserving the name used in the novel, Basedow's disease. Vmarquioni (talk) 18:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Were is a source that says this is an important literary example of Grave's? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:50, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

A quick search returns this: https://www.thewisemagazine.it/2017/08/19/morbo-di-basedow-sfinimento-zeno-realta/. Besides, the Italian page for Grave's disease also mentions the book and includes a quotation from it (I wanted to include the direct link, but Wikipedia keeps saying the page doesn't exist; it should be "Malattia di Basedow-Graves"). Vmarquioni (talk) 19:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

I have just found other useful sources: 1) In http://anthropoetics.ucla.edu/ap0901/brotto/, the author says (item VI): "Basedow’s disease plays a major role in Svevo’s novel. After she gave birth to twins (an archaic sign of mimetic crisis that is by no means incidental) the disease affects Ada, Guido’s wife and Zeno’s sister-in-law, whom the latter had fancied as a wife for himself and whom he desires still. She now is deprived of health and beauty. By meditating on this pathology, Zeno reaches the conclusion that health is a median value between the two extremes of a scale." 2) In https://www.enotes.com/topics/confessions-zeno/characters, the authors say: "Zeno himself likes to analyze life in terms of health and disease, especially Basedow’s disease." 3) In the book "Literary Diseases: Theme and Metaphor in the Italian Novel" (available in Google Books), the author also mentions Graves's disease (using the name Basedow's disease) as an important aspect of the novel. All those examples come from literary analyses of a medical topic (not medical ones), but clearly indicate that there is notability in that topic. Vmarquioni (talk) 20:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Okay I guess with those refs. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback, Doc James. And merging those two topics worked out well. Vmarquioni (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Prevalence

We have three statements that don't make sense to me:

1. Intro: "Graves' disease will develop in about 0.5% of males and 3% of females."
2. Epidemiology: "Graves' disease occurs in about 0.5% of people."
3. Intro and Epidemiology: "It occurs about 7.5 times more often in women than in men."

#1 and #2 don't seem to fit with each other. Something that occurs in 1 out of every 200 males and 6 out of every 200 females should occur in about 7 out of every 400 people, or about 1.75% of people. And if it occurs 7.5 times more often in women than in men, wouldn't it occur in just about 4% of females? Obviously "males and females" doesn't exactly equal "men and women", since the latter excludes children, but (1) this sounds like it's uncommon in childhood, so maybe we can ignore children, and (2) if children are a major factor, they should have rates comparable to that of adults, which couldn't be the case if the difference I'm seeing were the result of children appearing in #1 but not #3.

Nyttend backup (talk) 18:17, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Cure for Graves Disease

I had Graves Disease but cured it by flushing out my digestive tract and then not eating anything for 3 days. Has anybody run across any published literature (RS) on this cure that could be used in Wikipedia? 75.4.34.74 (talk) 09:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Considering Graves disease is an autoimmune condition causing secretion of antibodies active on the thyroid tissue, there is no medical validity to your proposed cure. Please see a doctor. 203.10.55.11 (talk) 16:35, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

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