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What for God has them chosen?[edit]

Do you know any unbiased source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.90.196.227 (talk) 11:36, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Who could possibly in the Solar system be defined as 'unbiased'?

long-standing issue[edit]

For more than 6 years, the article has had this: "The Mishnah continues, and states that anyone who kills or saves a single human, not Jewish, life, it's as if they had saved or killed the entire world." I'm reluctant to edit this article at all, but I'll note that we are supposed to base it on secondary sources and not on our own analysis of primary texts. It is not universally accepted that the text refers to all humans and many manuscripts have "one soul of Israel", where "Israel" is the collective term for Jews. An online example that has both Hebrew and English is Sefaria. There is a huge amount of published discussion on this issue and the one-sided reference to a primary text should be replaced by a good balanced secondary source. Zero^talk 03:58, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. I removed the claim. --GHcool (talk) 16:28, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

POVs, Original Research[edit]

I've seen some examples of sources disconnected from statements used to back up certain information, which cleared out to be just POV and Original Research. Please keep track of this. Homerethegreat (talk) 11:12, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why?[edit]

According to the Israel Democracy Institute, approximately two thirds of Israeli Jews believe that Jews are the "chosen people".

whats the purpose of this statement except to make israeli jews sound elitist? Shrub4TheDub (talk) 11:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose is to report a relevant survey by an organization generally regarded as reliable. Zero^talk 12:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it feels out of place, and its only purpose is to make israelis sound bad. Shrub4TheDub (talk) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a theologically vanilla claim, even for Christians who have read their Bible. I mean: for people who grew up in a Christian culture, it would be odd to think that Jews don't consider themselves to be the chosen people. You could argue that some people do think. But most people aren't trained to think. Hence their blunt stereotypes. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

most jews consider themselves chosen as like a passive thing (im jewish) and feel slightly guilty about it. the statement itself is not incorrect, but the way its shoehorned in makes me uncomfortable. Shrub4TheDub (talk) 23:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, I'm not a Jew halachically, nor by education, nor by conversion. But biblically (i.e. father decides the lineage), I might be Jewish. "Might", i.e. I might as well be Druze or Samaritan. And I know considerably less about Samaritans and especially Druze than about Jews. tgeorgescu (talk) 04:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]