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Taxonomy[edit]

A note on the taxonomy of leeks, elephant garlic and kurrat. While these are treated as separate species in older literature, I am following taxonomists who regard them as cultivars of Allium ampeloprasum, much as cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, collards etc. are cultivars of Brassica oleracea. WormRunner 22:49, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Doubt about the Taxonomy: Compiling the article for italian version, i found out on ITIS a different hierarchy. Tafkal 00:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was checking correct name for a list of plants. According to The Plant List, Allium ampeloprasum var. porrum should be a synonym of Allium ampeloprasum. Which one is correct? MKwek (talk) 07:42, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's a common problem. Historically, cultivated plants were given Latin names as if they were wild species, subspecies or varieties. The modern approach is to use the International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants (ICNCP) to name cultivated plants. In this spirit, the Plant List follows the World Checklist of Selected Plant Families, which does not recognize any subspecies or varieties of Allium ampeloprasum, instead noting that many cultivars are grown. I think that the most authoritative recent sources no longer use Allium ampeloprasum var. porrum, so the article should be changed. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:50, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Green/spring onions[edit]

Isn't a scallion (green/spring onion) the same thing as a leek? Or is it some kind of a leek?

No. See scallion for details. -- WormRunner | Talk 16:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Is there anyway that can be made clear? Both leek and scallion are members of the same genus, but the leek has a species name listed while the scallion doesn't. And neither page mentions the other. Can anyone clear this up?

Well, they taste completely different, they only look remotely similar. Does that suffice? --elwood_j_blues (talk) 03:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like this is at least partially cleared up - the article now references Scallions both in the main text and the See Also's. Think it's reciprocal too. 77.102.101.220 (talk) 01:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

leek shrew[edit]

I removed the reference to a shrew called "leek". Not only could I not find any reference to it on the internet, but I have not found it in the OED, nor a list of UK mammals. It was added by an anonymous editor. If this is a real animal, it should have its own page and be referenced from the disambig page leek, not this page. -- WormRunner | Talk 23:09, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The 'leek' is a name given to the common shrew in The Wirral which is in the UK. It's not a proper name - just a fairly local name - so I doubt it would be listed with 'proper' names. I don't think there are any other weird names like that for shrews at least not in the UK. It's definitely not a separate animal! Sorry for confusion but it's my first entry. MonkSee.

Great! Then it needs to be mentioned on the leek disambig page. If you can possibly find out the species then a page could either be created or a pointer made to the right place. Local names are fine in my opinion, but need to be pointed to something everyone can use. BTW, I urge you to create a Wikipeida identity. -- WormRunner | Talk 23:34, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ok cool. I will work out how to join up and then do a proper entry for it. Or should I maybe just put it on the entry for the common shrew? I don't really know much about shrews. I am studying psycholinguistics so I am interested in all sorts of odd names for things that we don't use very often and the 'leek' seemed kinda interesting. Sorry about formatting, I seem to be just editing your post but i don't know how to do it yet. MonkSee.

I changed a heading from "=other stuff" to "Other Information" because "other stuff" just sounded strange.. not just because of the = in front of it. - Sly

leekspin[edit]

If there is a trivia section why is there no mention of leekspin? Afrobean 05:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orange for brains[edit]

Some clown altered the text to say that the leek was in the same family as oranges and potatoes. The leek is a monocot, for one thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.74.194 (talk) 21:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Today it was the same family as Peanut butter and fish :s JiMternet 19:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha... I'm no fan of wanton page-vandalism, but that's funny :D 77.102.101.220 (talk) 01:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i'm on wikileeks :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.158.62.125 (talk) 21:07, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expert tag[edit]

Sorry, that anon edit removing the expert tag was me - forgot to log in.Bridesmill 17:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pickled Leek Pie[edit]

Can anyone confirm that there is such a thing? Otherwise I'll delete the reference. Rojomoke (talk) 16:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try baking pickled leeks in a pie and then there will be such a thing.75.27.151.244 (talk) 00:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would that be OR, i.e. an Original Recipe? (^_~) 76.22.30.247 (talk) 22:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, what relevance does Pokemon even have to the leek page? It seems gratuitous to make links to Pokemon from every object ever mentioned or seen in the cartoon. 99.20.91.130 (talk) 21:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gotta Link 'Em All, y'know? 77.102.101.220 (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Overlooked" for centuries in England?[edit]

Surely that's a typo... it should be "generally over_C_ooked until the late 50s". (Ahem... sorry :D) 77.102.101.220 (talk) 01:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whether something is overcooked is a matter of opinion, not fact. Some people like vegetables cooked al dente while other prefer them soft - there is no absolute standard. This sentence should be removed. 86.24.70.90 (talk) 12:14, 19 December 2011 (UTC)Moriarty[reply]

The page says "overlooked", with a citation and other wording to indicate that there is no spelling mistake. This section on the talk page was apparently added in jest. Nadiatalent (talk) 14:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikileaks[edit]

The leek is a symbol for Wikileak. You can see Robert Forster handing out leeks while rapping. Julian Assange is standing in the back. video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKtB_ZepgqI —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.13.80.30 (talk) 19:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reproduction[edit]

can someone add some details on how leeks produce? I checked the classification family and there are no details. I know they flower but are they wind or insect pollinated? Are both male and female parts open at the same time? Thanks. Xerxel (talk) 11:28, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eye Irritation[edit]

when I chop leeks I notice my eyes tear almost as much as for onions. They're of the same genus as Alium cepa. Is that just me, or is that eye irritation a general characteristic leeks share w/ onions? Ken M Quirici 21:25, 25 August 2012 (UTC) just you

Cultivar question[edit]

Question: is a cultivar specific to a species? That is one can't have cultivars of a genus. I know dumb question but I'm not a biologist. Ken M Quirici 21:25, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

(I split this off into a separate section as it's a different issue.) Not a dumb question at all; it's actually quite a complicated subject, governed by a set of rules (the ICNCP). A cultivar is just a "cultivated variety". In some cases it is clearly a variety of a species, so it is a cultivar of that species. In other cases, horticulturalists have deliberately crossed species to produce cultivars with desired qualities. Then the cultivar can only be assigned to the genus – the exact mix of species involved may even be unknown. Thus among ornamental alliums, Allium hollandicum 'Purple Sensation' is considered to be just a good form of the wild species Allium hollandicum, whereas Allium 'Globemaster' is considered to be a hybrid between different species. It's even more messy than that; the plants grown as epiphyllums are hybrids between different genera so it's hard to give them a scientific name at all. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ENGVAR of article[edit]

There have recently been some edits which changed US spellings to British ones, which I have reverted. Following the principles of WP:RETAIN, this article should be in US English – the first substantial edit which made it not a stub was by User:WormRunner here, and his additions are in US English (e.g. "flavor"). So I've added the relevant template to this page. Peter coxhead (talk) 15:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Cultural significance[edit]

I've tagged the sentence concerning daffodils and Wales, since it needs a verb and I have no idea what that verb should be. If the article is trying to say that leeks and Daffodils are related and are both culturally significant to the Welsh, then it should say that and provide a source in the form of an inline citation. Matuko (talk) 19:25, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Matuko, I checked the edit history and it was originally that either the leek or the daffodil was worn on St David's Day. I've corrected the text and removed your tag. 13:53, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]