Talk:Capricornus

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Notes[edit]

The Enki page says that Enki is the Sumerian god that originated the Capricorn. -- Error

OK, I actually read the page and noticed that Enki = Ea -- Error

see Talk:Constellations/Exoplanets in the constellations.

Planets?[edit]

To explane the "Planets" headline, see Talk:Constellation/Exoplanets in the constellations.

What are the traits believed to be that of a Capricorn person? All sign should of course state them, but surprisingly it's not common.

Huh!?? I don't understand? Neither Talk:Constellation nor Talk:Constellations says anything about Exoplanets. Constellations is a redirects page. In all the discussion pages, we discuss the articles and the contents of the articles. Will you please sign your comments with four tilde: ~~~~ so we can know when you wrote your comment. It is namely possible that these articles about constellations around the ecliptic once were confused with the astrological signs, in this case Capricorn (astrology). I hope by now that the info relevant to the sky sector Capricornus is separated from the symbolisms of Capricorn (astrology). I have some interest in both topics, but I believe astrology is the last remnants of the old Assyro-Babylonian religion, otherwise almost extinct. ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 14:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name Revisited[edit]

While commenting on the classical-linguistic shortcomings of an astronomy professor (specifically on Scorpio vs. Scorpius) with a Latin colleague, he mentioned that the original Latin would have been "Capricornu", which struck me as odd (as Latin has perhaps 2 words that end in -u, one of which is cornu) until it dawned on me to separate them into two words: capri cornu, or "the horn of the goat". Now, I feel that it would be significant to at least mention if not analyze this etymology in the article. 69.168.161.140 01:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If that etymology is mentioned in a credible source, it could be mentioned. Otherwise it would be original research and not acceptable.--JyriL talk 18:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Idiotic alternate view[edit]

The perfectly ahistorical alternate view moronically tries to depict a goat! Then why, in any imaginable supernatural being's name, isn't the name of Capricornus Capra? Capricornus is not a goat! It's a goat-fish from mythology, with the fore part from a goat and the hind part a fish. These alternate views doesn't belong to wikipedia - they seems to much like original research. Rursus 20:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there Rursus! Why screaming? Rursus 07:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Huh? That was schizophrenic... The alternate view is not OR since it is referenced. I'm not convinced that it is necessary or notable, though.--JyriL talk 18:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ehhm yes, or at least a split personality, kind'a. However, it may also be seen as trollish hysteria, interspersed with coming-to-ones-senses. Said: Rursus 15:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture description error[edit]

One of the picture says "The brightest star of the picture is Jupiter". Even though it is a picture full of stars, the brightest one is a planet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.212.183 (talk) 14:57, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Sidney Hall - Urania's Mirror - Capricornus.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on June 8, 2017. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2017-06-08. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:37, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Capricornus
Capricornus is a constellation commonly represented in the form of a sea-goat, a mythical creature that is half goat, half fish. One of the 88 modern constellations, Capricornus was also one of the 48 constellations listed by the 2nd century astronomer Ptolemy. The constellation is located in an area of sky called the Sea or the Water, consisting of many water-related constellations such as Aquarius, Pisces and Eridanus. It is the smallest constellation in the zodiac.

This illustration was included in Urania's Mirror, a set of celestial cards illustrated by Sidney Hall.Illustration: Sidney Hall; restoration: Adam Cuerden

Removing dubious mythology material ("Pricus" and Chronos)[edit]

I'm removing material from this article, and the equivalent at sea goat. The text in question was added to Capricornus a couple years ago [1] and mostly copied over to sea goat when the article was made earlier this year. I suspect it to be unreliable for the following reasons:

  • The sites linked don't look like particularly reliable sources, and don't cite any sources at all themselves. One of them [2] presents the story as a "lost legend" and a linked page [3] refers to the story being "discovered in later writings," but with no specifics or sources. An earlier version of the page [4] attributes it to a text called the "Scriptures of Delphi" [5]. I can find nothing that looks reliable about these scriptures, which also include a "Vampire Bible," and the current version of the Gods and Monsters page about them is more skeptical [6].
  • I can't find any reference to a sea goat named "Pricus" on Google Books, except an encyclopedia of mythical creatures that appears quite recent [7]. The name Pricus does appear elsewhere, but only as a human name or as part of a taxonomic name (and some OCR errors).
  • Nor can I find references to Chronos creating or fathering a sea goat.
  • These studies of constellation myths discuss Capricorn in some detail but say nothing about "Pricus", Chronos (including variant spellings), time reversal, or a whole species of sea goats that became land goats [8] [9]
  • The concept of "turning back time" seems very modern and unfitting to Greek mythology (though I admit this is largely my intuition and could be wrong, and I would welcome any corrections). I can't find a reference to Chronos having that specific power in myth, either.

I think it'd be wise to search through other Greek mythology-related pages, such as the topics mentioned here [10] for any other dubiously sourced material. And the same for vampire-related pages, possibly. 188.74.64.13 (talk) 20:44, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]