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Untitled[edit]

Napoléon's Coup d'état took place in 1799, and not in 1796.

Carnot did indeed oppose Napoleon's progress towards Emperor, but he only left public life in 1807 (and then because the Tribunat, of which he was a member, was abolished; not because he resigned from it). The Fructidor coup was carried out to annul the results of elections at which monarchists had done disconcertingly well, so Carnot leaving the Directory then is not very strong evidence for sincere republican convictions.

I'm not sure that the article text adequately reflects that this is the man who first created and operated a system which was able to raise large armies and support them in the field by conscription, requisition and (in the final analysis) coercion. That discovery/invention has had a profound effect ever since. I have added links to levee en masse and conscription to raise the profile of these points (User:Rjccumbria 10 May 2005)

Carnot presented a gift to Jacquard. I think he might have met with Babbage as well. Perhaps Carnot had a role in creating the computer. Jacquards Web:How Hand Loom Led Birth Infromation Age. New York, Oxford University Press,2004. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.152.135.77 (talk) 13:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sources/Bibliography[edit]

1. "Lazare Carnot Savant" (book) ^[1]

2. "Lazare Carnot, Republican Patriot" (book) ^[2]

3."Pour vaincre : Lazare Carnot : vie, opinions et pensées de l'organisateur." (book) ^[3]

4. "In Lazare Carnots Footsteps" (academic journal) ^[4]

5. "Napoléon & Carnot; épisode de l'histoire militaire d'Anvers" (book) ^[5]

Please leave suggestions on my bibliography/sources. Thanks!

Jessyyx (talk) 00:36, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gillispie, Charles Coulston (1971). Lazare Carnot savant; a monograph treating Carnot's scientific work. Princeton, N.J: Princeton University Press.
^ Dupre, Huntley (1892). Lazare Carnot, Republican Patriot. Oxford, O.: The Mississippi Valley Press.
^ Mathiot, Charles Eugène (196–1917). Pour vaincre : Lazare Carnot : vie, opinions et pensées de l'organisateur. Paris: Flammarion.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)
^ Juhel, Alain (2010). "In Lazare Carnots Footsteps". Mathematical Intelligencer. 32 (2). doi:10.1007/s00283-009-9112-4.
^ Wauwermans, Henri Emmanuel (1888). Napoléon & Carnot; épisode de l'histoire militaire d'Anvers. Bruxelles, Leipzig: T.Falk.

Peer Review[edit]

I have gone through your article a few times; it is well developed and has a encyclopedic tone so far. The titles seem concise and organized well. However, you may want to try to shorten the fifth one (Work in Mathematics and Theoretical engineering). The content is neutral; I didn't find any traces of opinion or bias in your article. In the Early Life section, I do think there should be some expansion of what he would have studied. Instead of saying "While in the Army he continued his study of mathematics" you may want to include what he was studying specifically and the development of his studies. Are the published works mentioned after the statement I mentioned the works that he did during is time in the Army? Another question that I have is what Literary Society was he honored with admittance, as is mentioned in the closing of early life? Is it possible to find what society he was in specifically?...One last suggestion that I have concerns the "Organizer of victory" categorization. It is put in the introductory section of the article with no explanation, which left me a bit confused. You may want to omit it or include a short description of what it is. Even though I see there is background as to why he is known as the Organizer in the "Political Career" section, you may want to either remove it completely from the introduction or try to provide a short description; avoiding any major details which you would want to include or keep in that respective section. So far the article seems like it is almost complete with the "Political Career" section being the longest. You may want to check to see if it can be split into another section, but other than that your article is coming along well. Sj.will (talk) 02:26, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Age in 1773[edit]

Born on 13 May 1753... On 1 January 1773 he graduated... He was eighteen years old. Something seems to be wrong here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.131.16.149 (talk) 11:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Collège d'Autun[edit]

The link is not right : Carnot was not pupil in the "Collège d'Autun" in Paris, but in the collège of Autun (nowadays Lycée Bonaparte).

--Jcqrcd44 (talk) 19:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Excommunicato (talk) 22:49, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Gillispie, Charles Coulston (1971). Lazare Carnot savant; a monograph treating Carnot's scientific work. Princeton, N.J: Princeton University Press.

[2] Dupre, Huntley (1892). Lazare Carnot, Republican Patriot. Oxford, O.: The Mississippi Valley Press.

[3] Mathiot, Charles Eugène (196–1917). Pour vaincre : Lazare Carnot : vie, opinions et pensées de l'organisateur. Paris: Flammarion.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)

[4] Juhel, Alain (2010). "In Lazare Carnots Footsteps". Mathematical Intelligencer. 32 (2). doi:10.1007/s00283-009-9112-4.

[5] Wauwermans, Henri Emmanuel (1888). Napoléon & Carnot; épisode de l'histoire militaire d'Anvers. Bruxelles, Leipzig: T.Falk.

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