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Bolt versus quiver[edit]

Are you sure about "quarrel" being the container? So far as I knew, quarrel is synonymous with bolt -- the arrow-thingy not the quiver-thingy, to use technical parlance. My Merriam-Webster backs me up on that one, though obviously that's not a very authoritative source (Dammit, one of these days I'm buying an OED!) -- Paul Drye

Oops. I think it's my mistake. I was having one of those nights last night...sjc

This version of the article makes the following claim:

Bolts fall at the same rate, independent of the speed of flight. Arrows, in contrast, depend on gaining lift in flight...

Is there a good reference to cite for this claim? To have lift, you need an airfoil, but the fletching article makes it clear that the fletchings are there only to "stabilize the arrow in flight" (ie., they are not wings). There is no mention of "lift" in the arrow article. Wikiscient 17:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since an arrow is a rotating projectile, I can't see why it would have lift indeed. Mosher81 (talk) 13:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Headline text[edit]

quarel means damn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.153.180 (talk) 23:01, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It also means to argue... So? --86.27.20.149 (talk) 19:36, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?[edit]

This article is very short. I think its contents should be in the projectile section of the crossbow article. By the way, that section implies a quarrel has to have a 4 sided point. 199.86.19.194 (talk) 02:12, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Less-lethal bolts[edit]

Do less-lethal bolts exist (ie without a point), according to http://www.instructables.com/id/mini-ninja-crossbow/ that would make the bolt fly less straight, but by using a different point material or redesigning the bolt (ie more into a mace-shape or something) this problem could be eliminated. 14:07, 20 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.182.251.170 (talk)

Requested moves[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move the disambiguation page to Quarrel and the article to Crossbow bolt, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 01:57, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


– In modern society, crossbow archery is a relatively obscure subject that few people are familiar with, while "quarrel" is a relatively common term with other meanings (esp. argument / disagreement). Thus, the projectile should not be considered the primary topic for the term "quarrel". —BarrelProof (talk) 00:19, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - BarrelProof well spotted. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:07, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ping @BarrelProof and In ictu oculi how about Bolt (projectile)? In books "crossbow AND bolt" got twice the results of "crossbow AND quarrel". Gregkaye 14:10, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    That seems like a good idea. I notice that in the crossbow article, as well as in the glossary of archery terms article (both before and after my edit yesterday), the bolt term seems more common. Moreover, the crossbow article seems to say that a quarrel is a particular type of bolt (with a four-sided point). This article does not make such a distinction, although it does say that quarrels typically have "square heads" (i.e., four-sided heads) and that the "quarrel" term is derived from a French word for "square". —BarrelProof (talk) 15:00, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle - I'm up for another title, like Gregkaye's proposal. Red Slash 00:43, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – open to other titles, but no primary. Dicklyon (talk) 05:46, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support disagreement would be primary if there is one. -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 11:00, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to Crossbow bolt. Far more common name than quarrel and usually seen as a two-word term, thus natural disambiguation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:01, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support also with Gregkaye's suggestion 24.131.80.54 (talk) 22:56, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Cleanup needed[edit]

Special:WhatLinksHere/Quarrel shows lots of pages that need to have links updated to point to Crossbow bolt. Dicklyon (talk) 04:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think most of that was due to a template used in various articles, and has been fixed already. We should check again in a couple of days after Wikipedia's link-tracking database has had time to update. —BarrelProof (talk) 18:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is the present image optimal?[edit]

The current image depicts a highly unusual example of a crossbow bolt, with a wide forward portion, a tapered waist section, and a skirt at the rear instead of fletchings. Does anybody have any further info about the projectile in the image, and should the text be updated to include information about this type of bolt variant? What crossbow model(s) is this projectile designed for? And is this picture really a good general representation of a crossbow bolt? Stardig (talk) 21:44, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How Crossbow Works?[edit]

How does Crossbow works? What is the Crossbow Triggering Mechanism? Different types of crossbows? How does it work?

These are some frequently asked questions that can pull up in every newbie's thoughts. If you’re a beginner to deer hunting, we are here to clear all of your doubts one by one.

But before getting an in-depth working mechanism of Crossbow,

How Does Crossbow Works?[edit]

The Crossbow launching principle is similar to the Bow and Arrow; it targets moving or distant static hunt. However, the core difference between both is their structure design and triggering mechanism. A Bow and Arrow need to be pulled back and released from Bow for launching, while Crossbow has a proper triggering and arrow locking mechanism for firing the arrow, which requires less launching efforts. The Crossbow has a Stock for better stability.

How to shoot with a Crossbow?[edit]

For crossbow shooting, put your foot inside the stirrup. Ensure that you perfectly have your foot positioned completely inside it, and then pull back the stirrup. Ensure your grip before pulling back the stirrup completely. It may get slip, which may cause you serious injuries.

Hold back the string with both hands and pull it towards the cocking device. You have to be very careful while pulling back the string and apply equal pressure from both sides to balance the string and avoiding slip. You’ve to balance the center of the string to deliver maximum power to the arrow.

Now, lock the string safely in the cocking device. Once the string is locked, safety will engage automatically. Now load a bolt into the Crossbow just above the foregrip. When you’re prepared to fire after aiming your target, remove your safety, and fire the bolt by triggering the device.

Simple Crossbow Mechanism[edit]

Like a simple Bow and arrow, Crossbow uses fast-moving strings for launching a Bolt, but it also has a triggering mechanism like a rifle. Modern Crossbow includes a safety mechanism that will automatically apply each time while Crossbow is cocked. However, a simple Bow and arrow don’t have these safety features. The Crossbow must be de-cocked after the launch.

This safety implies the launching of a loaded bolt to a safe and close quarter target. Dry firing can damage the Crossbow because the strings of the Crossbow has a significant amount of energy while launching a bolt, so not having a bolt to launch can break the Crossbow’s limbs.

Conventional Bows and Crossbows:[edit]

Crossbows are liked by most of the hunters due to easy to use feature and little experience and expertise required to gain the desired accuracy. Any Bow which looks like a horizontal bow can be considered as a crossbow.

A conventional bow and arrow release with low energy than the Crossbow, which will require the same effort in both cases. Apart from this released energy feature, crossbows are generally considered as high accuracy than a simple bow. This high accuracy is mainly caused by the fact that when an archer holds a conventional bow, It requires a lot of effort to keep it stretched while aiming a target. A perfect release requires time to focus on the target effectively. If the archer’s focus is divided into both efforts, “stretching a bow” and “aiming a target,” In this case, even a perfect shooter can lose focus on the target, as muscles are stressed and at the same time focusing on the target will be resulted in depreciated accuracy. While it doesn’t require stretching of a string with a focusing target because of its string locking mechanism, that’s why Crossbow can hit the mark with much more accuracy.

Moreover, conventional Bow required greater muscle training and more practice for accurate target, while Crossbow requires less training and effort for a perfect Crossbow shooting.

Crossbow’s Parts[edit]

Now we will discuss some important parts of Crossbow.

Cocking Stirrup:[edit]

The stirrup is a metal made frame placed at the front of the Crossbow. It is used to secure the Crossbow from slipping while cocking the Crossbow by placing the foot inside it.

Stock:[edit]

A stock is a vertical body of the Bow. You can say it’s the backbone of the Crossbow, and all the other components of the Crossbow are mounted on it. The front part of the stock from where the archer holds the weapon is a foregrip, whereas the rear end that sits on your shoulder is called buttstock.

Limbs:[edit]

The limbs are like the wings of a crossbow. They provide the power to the Bow by flexing and storing the elastic energy to launch the bolt. Modern Recurve crossbows boast curved limbs, while Compound crossbows have a little complicated pulley and cam system.

Bowstring:[edit]

The bowstring is basically a string that connects both the limbs and transfers the power to the bolt and it to launch the bolt.

Rail:[edit]

The rail is the upper portion of the foregrip. Rail is the area where the arrow is mounted, and the bowstring moves over it.

Trigger:[edit]

Crossbows also have a trigger system, just like rifles, which are used to launch the latch that is holding the bowstring. The trigger assembly also has safety features to prevent accidents during launch.

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