Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teenybopper music

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Anybody who wants to rewrite this should have a go. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 21:40, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Teenybopper music and Teenybopper[edit]

For the 2005-03-22 VFD discussion of Teenybopper, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Teenybopper.

Dicdef, music that teens like to listen to. (Teenybopper is a redirect to the other.) —Wahoofive (talk) 00:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; the supposed definition is nonsensically broad anyway. Christopher Parham (talk) 01:58, 2005 May 26 (UTC)
Keep seems to be a legitimate stub and the genre name for a style of music has been around for some time. I can imagine that this would grow to be more than a mere dictionary definition.--AYArktos 02:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I'm not sure how a patently deceptive definition can be described as a legitimate stub. If the stub become legitimate, it would be worth keeping, but clearly rap artists like NWA, etc. would not typically be described as teenybober music. Christopher Parham (talk) 02:10, 2005 May 26 (UTC)
Rewrite. This definition is far too broad, but there should perhaps be a legitimate article to replace it. --M412k 02:23, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Rewrite so that it refers to pop music aimed at teens and preteens. I wouldn't refer to techno as a teenybopper genre. Capitalistroadster 03:02, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and recreate: I know that seems like a lot, but I don't want to honor or maintain this junk in the history, and yet the term has a specific historical location and meaning. It's quite important in the rise of rock and roll and the consciousness of a youth culture (which then means marketing and money from that segment, which then affects all media, advertising, etc.). The current pejorative article is less than useless though. Geogre 03:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete concur with George. Better to start the article from scratch. Megan1967 06:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. "Teenyboppers" and their music can annoy me as much as the next person, but Wikipedia is supposed to be about accuracy and NPOV, not stereotyping. Plus "teenybopper" is somewhat of a derogitory term for early teens and pre-teens. (Is someone gonna write articles about "nigger music" and "cracker music"?) At any rate, most new musical genres are initially more popular among the younger demographics. The article lists rap as an example of teenybopper music, but that genre first got popular in the '80s, so it'll soon be played on the oldies stations - if it isn't already. So we should write factual info about the actual genres and not arbitary stereotypes of them. --Blackcats 06:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Rewrite, for reasons already given. --Idont Havaname 07:23, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - above I voted for keep as a stub - I fully support editing, as much as a rewrite - be bold and edit. I have a teen and a tween and have to put up with them changing my radio station ... they hate Nikki Webster though who I would have categorised as teeny bopper music and my just turned 14 year old thinks Eminem real cool, which I think means Eminem and Rap fits into teeny bopper category - so even the present stub reads reasonably accurate to me--AYArktos 08:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Teenybopper is a generic term that has been applied and will continue to be applied to past and future teens. As such it is highly subjective, and constantly changing. Thus, teenybopper music will never fit a given definition, and furthermore will vary by region. Inherently POV, inherently inaccurate. Delete. Scimitar 15:00, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Scimitar. Quale 20:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete dicdef. JamesBurns 11:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Scimitar. carmeld1 04:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and expand Teenybopper, folding the music article into it. -- BD2412 ^talk 21:32, 2005 May 31 (UTC)
- ...and note that the previous teenybopper vfd was for a nonsense article... -- BD2412 ^talk 21:34, 2005 May 31 (UTC)

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