Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of political parties in Honduras

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The result of the debate was keep. – ABCD 21:03, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

List of political parties in Honduras

Instead of replacing the Vfd on this page to reopen discussion about the redirection, which he clearly disagrees with User:Electionworld Electionworld unilaterally reverted back to the current version in complete disregard for deletion process: This discussion needs to be reopened. My vote stands,--SqueakBox 01:11, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. We have similar articles for many countries. I think this is perfectly appropriate breakout. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:22, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

• As a relative newbie, I have a question about this "process," which SqueakBox is so concerned with protecting. The VFD tag says "Please do not remove or deface this notice or blank, merge, or move this article while the discussion is in progress. " Wasn't turning it into a redirect during the discussion itself a violation of process? The Deletion Policy page says

You must not blank the article, turn it into a redirect, or merge it into another article.

(It seems to happen with some regularity, however.) (BTW, I have nothing to do with this Honduras page and couldn't care less whether it's deleted.) —Wahoofive | Talk 01:48, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• • I'm surprised Guide to Votes for Deletion says that. Redirect during VfD process is not that uncommon, but usually only after a strong consensus has developed, which cannot happen in 3 hours from 3 people. Similarly, moves also sometimes happen by strong consensus. Merging is almost always a bad idea while discussion is still in progress (because it's hard to undo), and blanking is just disruptive. Genuine editorial efforts to improve the article are fine, though. Plenty of articles are salvaged that way during the VfD process -- Jmabel | Talk 01:55, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

• BTW there is a much fuller list of parties at Politics of Honduras which no-one has bothered to update. So this is an out of date duplication of Politics in Honduras. I think Cesar and I acted in good faith, where i think Electionworld did not. All he needed to do was restore the Vfd. instead of which he ignored the fact that there was a 3 majority against him and reverts to his version,--SqueakBox 01:58, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
  • Whether this was up to date has nothing to do with whether the breakout is a good idea. & I don't really care why Electionworld did what he did. This was newly placed again on VfD, I didn't notice it last time, and I'm voting on the merits of such an article existing, not on an issue of its current text, which is not generally a VfD matter. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:00, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Maybe I acted wrongly to revert the merger, but one cannot say that there is a consensus when only 3 hours of discussion were allowed. I argued my reason in the summary when I reverted: (RV. The debate on the delete page was only open for some hours. This page is part of an extensive series on parties by country, so do not delete it.). Sorry, I thought that that would be enough. It might have been better when I would have restored the VfD template. Whe had this discussion on several pages about political parties in xxx. There was never a majority for deleting of these kind of pages. There is a List of political parties that directs to pages on political parties in every country around the world. Where the Politics of xxx pages are generally meant to provide informtion about politics in a country, the political parties are meant to lead to a more comprehensive information about parties in a country. When I started editing in Wikipedia, these pages were already existings (Honduras was already existing in 2003). Deleting this page would damage a complete and balanced information system on political parties in Wikipedia. Gangulf 06:44, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Keep (but update with the more complete info on "politics"). Valid member of a series. –Hajor 13:52, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep --Soman 15:04, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Gorrister 17:33, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Every country has a separate article listing political parties. —Seselwa 19:31, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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