Talk:Žumberak Mountains

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Moving[edit]

Moved this back because 'Ž' isn't in ISO-8859-1. Morwen 12:12, May 21, 2004 (UTC)

If the Slovenians call it Gorjanci more often than Žumberak, perhaps we should move it altogether? IIRC, a bit more of the mountain is in Slovenia than it is in Croatia. --Joy [shallot] 20:39, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved it to a compromise title, seeing how the names are really equivalent. I kept Žumberak in the first place primarily for backwards compatibility. --Joy [shallot] 14:59, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No problem. If I recall correctly, IIRC stay for If I recall correctly :)? --andrejj 15:32, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes :) --Joy [shallot]

I think that actual name of mountain is Žumberačka gora not Žumberak (according to my map)?

It is aj ;) --andrejj 20:04, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's used interchangeably. --Joy [shallot] 20:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Žumberačka gora[edit]

This should be on Žumberačka gora/Gorjanci? What about splitting on two articles Žumberačka gora and Gorjanci? --AndrejJ (talk) 05:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why should we split? Is this not the same geographic entity? --Eleassar my talk 09:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

German name[edit]

It is irrelevant IMHO. After all Zagreb was Zágráb, Agram or Zagrabia in history, but none of them mentioned ;-) --AndrejJ (talk) 05:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Rifleman 82 (talk) 22:53, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Žumberak/GorjanciŽumberak — Per WP:Naming conventions (landforms). The name Žumberak is simply more prevalent in English sources.[1], [2], [3] Eleassar my talk 09:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mild support - it's not really ideal, as the usage is not overwhelmingly one or the other - both seem to be common in English. However, the present article title does not meet naming conventions (just as we don't have an article called Colour/Color, so we shouldn't have a slashed title here either). So we may as well go with the slightly more used name, but making sure all else is neutral - in Slovenian articles refer to it as Gorjanci, in Croatian as Žumberak and make sure both titles are mentioned in the lede.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:14, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I just don't see a compelling argument. The cited guideline does not actually proscribe the current solution and I don't see anyone complaining about the ordering (asking to put Gorjanci first). A general Google search for English-only results for "Zumberak -Gorjanci" and then one for "Gorjanci -Zumberak" is inconclusive. A Google Books search - ditto. Just leave it be unless someone actually has a real argument against the current title form. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Get rid of the slash for aesthetic and naming convention reasons. Either name is fine with me. — AjaxSmack 17:09, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, per Alex. This sort of situation arises with many articles, and Wikipedia's solution is to pick just one of the names as the article title. I don't see any reason to do differently here.--Kotniski (talk) 14:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Who's Alex? Jafeluv (talk) 17:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good question (another one for Gompie to ask, perhaps?) Sorry, per Ajax (and others).--Kotniski (talk) 21:05, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support move to either Žumberak or Gorjanci. It's an unfortunate situation when we have to choose between two common variants of a name, but I don't think trying to use both names is a solution. As Amakuru said above, we should pick one form as the article title (ideally the one that's most common in English), make a redirect from the other name, and encourage editors to use the correct variant in different contexts. Jafeluv (talk) 17:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 20 May 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved (non-admin closure) Kharkiv07 (T) 14:05, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]



ŽumberakŽumberak Highlands – Per WP:ENGLISH: this is an established English name of the entire highlands, Žumberak being only a part of it. Eleassar my talk 23:00, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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