Talk:Rambouillet Agreement

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Yipe! 140,000 bytes for the raw unannotated text of an agreement that had essentially 0 historical importance other than the fact that it never went into effect? It is my opinion that raw source material like this isn't really appropriate for inclusion an encyclopedia, it should at the very least have something added to it to give the reader insight into what it's all about. If I want to read the raw text of the Rambouillet Agreement, I would not go to an encyclopedia to find it; I would go to an encyclopedia to learn about it.

If nobody speaks up in its defence, I'm going to remove the raw text and leave just the first paragraph that talks about the agreement's context. Bryan Derksen, Sunday, April 7, 2002

I think most people are aware of my view about just dumping PD material onto the 'pedia. This is a good case to follow what wikipedia is not guideline number 12. --maveric149

I don't think it belongs, either. Else why not upload The Picture of Dorian Grey for our Oscar Wilde article? We're building an encyclopedia, not a library. My $.02. Koyaanis Qatsi, Sunday, April 7, 2002

Alrighty, off it goes then. Let History be its keeper. Bryan Derksen, Sunday, April 7, 2002

There is no date on the US document pointed to. This leads to confusion because there's at least two distinct texts. There's the one that the Contact Group referred to on the 23rd February (http://www.ohr.int/other-doc/contact-g/default.asp?content_id=3560) and there's the one on the US government site. Themos (talk) 11:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not an Agreement[edit]

This was an ultimatum, not an agreement. Right? (LAz17 (talk) 17:42, 23 March 2008 (UTC)).[reply]

A republican foreign-policy aide later told a think tank that he'd heard a US official say:

1. the word republican isn't capitalized. I assume it refers to a member? congressman? of the US Republican party?

2. This is a think tank, quoting an UNNAMED foreign-policy aide, quoting an UNNAMED "US official" saying something. That's not encyclopedic, it's not even journalism, it's chinese whispers, and what a surprise, it's anti-US propaganda aswell. Who'd a thunk it? CLEANUP OR DELETION (of the whole article) BADLY NEEDED --LeedsKing (talk) 00:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. This is propaganda. And the Article doesn´t mention who the members of the contact group was. That must be relevant, they were some of the main players. Italy, Germany, Russia, US, UK and France if my memory serves me right. --95.34.224.245 (talk) 21:03, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited source[edit]

This article is lifted essentially word for word from Beyond Guns and Steel: A War Termination Strategy by Dominic J. Caraccilo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.203.58.98 (talk) 06:07, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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