Talk:Malpighia emarginata

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In 1954, in NYC, we gave our infant son this apple juice "spiked" with acerola. During 1855-58, we had an acerola tree outside our house in Puerto Rico. Our small son often got scratched by the thorns while climbing to pick the "delicious" fruit. The Head of our university Department of Botany told me he had read papers reporting the comparison of the acerola tree with the Japanese cherry tree.jonhays 17:40, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Best name for article[edit]

I am leaving the main article here instead of Barbados cherry largely because it was the first one created, and because more pages show up on google for acerola than for Barbados cherry, but the botanical references I have refer to Barbados cherry only. I could be persuaded that it should be moved. Comments? -- WormRunner | Talk 20:00, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • Internationally, "acerola" might be the more popular name. It's a reasonably common flavor in Japanese hard candies, and I've only seen it here written out as "acerola" (romaji) and "aserora" (katakana). One way or another, it probably doesn't matter. Colin M. 04:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Naming convention says "most common name in English" - Japanese usage shouldn't come into the equation. Guettarda 04:56, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • I looked up this article because I tried a box of "orange, guava and acerola berry" juice (which was delicious). Here in NZ i suspect that acerola is the common english name for it. --Aidan 01:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Acerola seems to be the most common usage in (American) English -- I have seen many products boasting acerola, "acerola cherry [sic]," or "acerola berry" as an ingredient, but nothing made with "Barbados cherry"...The Jack 22:37, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Acerola is basically an exotic marketing name, much like "lingonberry" is for cowberry. That doesn't prevent the original English names from being the correct ones. With some produce, the marketing name eventually takes over and becomes the de-facto name (like oregano for pot marjoram), but should an encyclopedia assist in this transition, or only accept it once it's already complete? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.75.65 (talk) 14:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved this article to Malpighia glabra because the common names Acerola and Barbados Cherry could also refer to Malpighia emarginata. Both species are cultivated for their fruits; the main difference is range. According the GRIN database, only M. emarginata is native to Barbados, so I propose that Barbados Cherry redirect to that page once it has been written. Another option is to have Barbados Cherry and Acerola redirect to an article that describes the cultivation, properties, and consumption of the fruit of the two species. That is how the article on coffee is written.--TDogg310 (talk) 21:00, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Sectioned like an orange"?[edit]

I think not. The fleshy portion of the fruit is deeply lobed, but it is continuous. The inner mesocarp (the "seed") is sectioned, but most people don't get into that portion of the fruit and thus never see the seeds. Calling it "secioned like an orange" is a bit excessive, I think. Guettarda 21:50, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Move to Malpighia emarginata[edit]

It turns out that some of the more recent sources (ca. 2008) consider Malpighia glabra a synonym of M. emarginata. The article on M. glabra in the Spanish language Wikipedia made the move in March of 2009. This makes things quite a bit simpler, since acerola previously could have referred to up to 3 species. One problem is that most databases (i.e. GRIN) still consider the two species separate. I'll go ahead and move the article; hopefully its taxonomy won't change much in the future.--TDogg310 (talk) 04:43, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The only problem is that these are two distinct, but separate species. The true M. glabra is smaller, with smaller fruit and is more cold hardy (and is native to S. Texas and Mexico) while Malpighia punicifolia (previously, and incorrectly called M. glabra) is a large, cold tender, tree with larger fruit.[1]

Vitamin C[edit]

The article currently claims

The vitamin C produced by the fruit is better absorbed by humans than synthetic ascorbic acid.

The reference cited itself cites

Araújo P.S.R., Minami K., Acerola, Fundação Cargill, Campinas, SP, Brazil, 1994, 81 p.

And that reference doesn't seem to be online.

Anyway, I ask anyone who has access to tell me who they cite (it doesn't seem to be an original work on ascorbic acid absorption), or maybe how this was measured. I suspsect that it just means that the enantiomerically-pure ascorbic acid from living organisms is better absorbed than racemic ascorbic acid (mixture of equal parts of the 2 enantiomers). And that's not something notable for an article on a particular plant (see vitamin C, enantiomer, homochirality).

Icek (talk) 12:20, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that the claim was added by User:Alenhardt about 3 years ago, and it seems to be Alenhardt's only Wikipedia edit, so we are unlikely to get a reply from him. Icek (talk) 12:31, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Any Unique or Rare benefits compared to other berries/fruits?[edit]

Higher than average Vitamin-C content is the only benefit mentioned on most reliable web pages found by Google. Which is irrelevant for a smart consumer, as one can buy Vitamin C in bulk instead of buying Acerola Powder. ee1518 (talk) 16:17, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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growing conditions[edit]

I have this tree well etablished in a non-profected area in my yard in Kissimmee, Florida, slightly south but much further inland than Cape Canaveral. This article may need to be adjusted based on updated growing zones due to climate change. Valerie (talk) 10:29, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking of properly sourced text[edit]

Please be on the lookout for blanking of properly sourced text (sourced from the National Center for Biotechnology Information, a reputable source which the blanking editor mistakenly called "dubious") in this article:

76.190.213.189 (talk) 16:01, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How's it properly sourced? Bon courage (talk) 16:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) is part of the United States National Library of Medicine (NLM), a branch of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). It is approved and funded by the government of the United States. The NCBI is located in Bethesda, Maryland, and was founded in 1988 through legislation sponsored by US Congressman Claude Pepper.

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76.190.213.189 (talk) 16:03, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So what? The cited source was a primary study from a dodgy publisher (MDPI) which did not appear to support the cited text. Or did I miss something? Bon courage (talk) 16:06, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]