Talk:Amateur radio

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Amateur Radio in Portugal[edit]

Hi,

I added this section in the Amateur Radio page:

Contrasting with the usually welcoming nature of amateur radio, Portugal codified laws specifically aimed at preventing newcomers from using the spectrum, mandating a full radio silence for the Categoria 3 (entry-class license), on autonomous operation, and restricting the upgrade to the Categoria 2 (intermediate-class license, allowed to transmit) after a minimum wait period of 2 years and a maximum period of 5 years, after which the entry-class license is revoked and the process must restart.[1].

You removed it due to the analysis being original research.

Considering that everything else is a direct citation from the law, is the analysis you refer to that the laws were specifically aimed at preventing newcomers? Would the removal of this passage cease to violate the WP:NOR?

The following are extra references, but I didn't include them due to two of them being petitions that have no real value other than reflecting the fact that these laws are preventing newcomers, and the third is simply an argument about the constitutionality of this law regarding free speech:

The following, more serious reference regards a parliament hearing with an amateur radio association in which these points are discussed:

About the law itself, and as stated in the hearing above, Portugal is the only country in the CEPT which forbids transmissions from entry-level licensees, and this resulted in the number of new licenses dropping to fewer than 200 in 3 years. I believe this fact should be noted, even if I'm not the one writing about it (because yes, I personally chose not to become an amateur radio specifically because of this law).

References

  1. ^ "Portuguese Decree-Law 53/2009, Article 8, Section 2a, 'Subject to the limitations established by law, CAN category 3 holders may ... Use their individual amateur stations (...) only in receiving mode'".

Thanks, and have a nice year — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.157.152 (talk • contribs)

Yes, opinions about the effects of a government policy would need to be cited to a WP:SECONDARY source, i.e. a journalist or editorial staff of a WP:RS third party source such as a news organization or trade journal. WP:PRIMARY sources (like statutes, petitions, etc.) may only be used for basic uncolored facts. Also I could be wrong, but I believe the issue of non-autonomous operation restrictions to entry level class licenses may be covered in the Amateur_radio#Licensing_requirements section of this article, e.g. A few countries may issue special licenses to novices or beginners that do not assign the individual a call sign but instead require the newly licensed individual to operate from stations licensed to a club or organization for a period of time before a higher class of license can be acquired. Best regards, - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:13, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pecuniary[edit]

I think this may be an archaic or very uncommon word in English.

The only time I've ever encountered this word is WRT to the definition of Ham Radio. I had to look up this word when I first encountered it.

I think "for-profit" conveys the modern understanding of this term better.

108.200.234.93 (talk) 11:56, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's linked to wiktionary on first occurrence, in the first para, and is exactly right as used. It should be left as is. -Roxy, the PROD. . wooF 12:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, it's part of a direct quote, plus there is a parenthetical explanation right next to it. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:41, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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°ذز ءيو° — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.159.237.125 (talk) 11:38, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AllStarLink page[edit]

In the Amateur radio Article there is a redlink to AllStarLink under the "Modes by activity" section. I created a page about AllStarLink but am not sure how to link it to this link in Amateur radio. Does anyone know how to do that? The wiki editor seemed to want to only allow me to create a whole separate article rather than a sub-page / sub-article of Amateur Radio. As a result the wiki moderators are saying the article doesn't meet notability criteria. Yet AllStar is used by about 50,000 hams - which seems pretty notable to me within the context of ham radio. There have been articles about AllStar in CQ Magazine, on the ARRL website and dozens of other websites, thus there are indeed reliable and independent sources that I cited. My Draft article/page is here: Draft:AllStarLink Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks, David NR9V David Gleason (talk) 05:04, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@David Gleason I left a note at WT:WikiProject Amateur radio requesting input so hopefully someone will reply here but unfortunately it does not appear to an active project. Will see. S0091 (talk) 21:31, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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